[Mission92108]

Has anyone come across recent info about this one? Or actually observed its' habits/natural history?

[cacoseraph]

should be fairly assassiny

http://www.nature-of...heteroptera.htm
H. rotundatus, pic.
dang, there are some awesome pics on that page. check out the Pentatomidae and Coreidae sections!

[Mission92108]

cacoseraph, on Nov 23 2007, 12:40 AM, said:

should be fairly assassiny

http://www.nature-of...heteroptera.htm
H. rotundatus, pic.
dang, there are some awesome pics on that page. check out the Pentatomidae and Coreidae sections!

thanx for the link, with my apology for so late a reply ... you're right, they're in the same family as assassin bugs, tho reputed to have much stronger venom ... say, as phoneutria would compare to argiope :blink: :unsure: :ph34r:

[Black Widow]

cacoseraph, on Nov 23 2007, 07:40 AM, said:

should be fairly assassiny

http://www.nature-of...heteroptera.htm
H. rotundatus, pic.
dang, there are some awesome pics on that page. check out the Pentatomidae and Coreidae sections!

WOW! I've never even seen some like those! I'm definitely going to do 2 things:

❀ Worship them and thank you for posting this awesome site.
❀ Research all the bugs that intrigue me. I've already found 2 on that one page that I wanna look into.

Also aren't they cute? ^_^ Thank you once again!

[cacoseraph]

Mission92108, on Dec 15 2007, 12:31 AM, said:

cacoseraph, on Nov 23 2007, 12:40 AM, said:

should be fairly assassiny

http://www.nature-of...heteroptera.htm
H. rotundatus, pic.
dang, there are some awesome pics on that page. check out the Pentatomidae and Coreidae sections!

thanx for the link, with my apology for so late a reply ... you're right, they're in the same family as assassin bugs, tho reputed to have much stronger venom ... say, as phoneutria would compare to argiope :blink: :unsure: :ph34r:

stronger venom? dang. Platymeris already have pretty wicked bites, from what i have read. Even worse would put them in sting ray pain range. scary.

[Black Widow]

cacoseraph, on Jan 29 2008, 09:42 PM, said:

stronger venom? dang. Platymeris already have pretty wicked bites, from what i have read. Even worse would put them in sting ray pain range. scary.

OMG! No way! Have you ever gotten bitten by a Platymeris sp.? If you did, did you suffer immense pain or more then that? I need to know incase I ever come in contact with these ( mind you I probably will due to the fact of me wanting to study insects and spiders ).

But then this also got me wondering.....If you said that if the bite was any more venomous that it would put it in the range of sting ray pain.....does this mean the after affects too? *Thinks of the Croc Hunter*.......

[cacoseraph]

Black Widow, on Jan 30 2008, 04:48 AM, said:

cacoseraph, on Jan 29 2008, 09:42 PM, said:

stronger venom? dang. Platymeris already have pretty wicked bites, from what i have read. Even worse would put them in sting ray pain range. scary.

OMG! No way! Have you ever gotten bitten by a Platymeris sp.? If you did, did you suffer immense pain or more then that? I need to know incase I ever come in contact with these ( mind you I probably will due to the fact of me wanting to study insects and spiders ).

But then this also got me wondering.....If you said that if the bite was any more venomous that it would put it in the range of sting ray pain.....does this mean the after affects too? *Thinks of the Croc Hunter*.......

no i haven't. i want to, though.



the croc hunter got killed cuz he got lanced through part of his heart... it wasn't actually the venom that did him. from talking to my bro the venom has a lag time similar to centipede venom. i wonder if that implies the mechanisms are the same. i know both pains lessen with application of high heat (~130-140*F). i would like to develop my treatments to the point it isn't a day wasted and in pain when something nasty gets me

[Black Widow]

Oh that's good to hear that I won't die from getting stung by a sting ray.....Miss Steve so much :(

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.....I want to though

Wait.....say that again...*fiddles with her ears to make sure nothing was in them* Did you say that you want to get bitten by a Platymeris sp.?! You're mad......I wouldn't want to get bitten or stung by anything.

Crazy! Why? So you can know what it feels like? Would you want to get in contact with a Megalopyge opercularis?

[cacoseraph]

i don't like things with urticating setae on them all that much =P

[Black Widow]

cacoseraph, on Feb 1 2008, 05:36 PM, said:

i don't like things with urticating setae on them all that much =P

:rolleyes: You're too much you know that? :P

[cacoseraph]

so i have been told


i am serious though. i don't mess around with pillars and stuff i don't know about with urts on them.
and i am getting rid of most of my new world tarantulas (all the species thathave urts that bother me, at least)

This post has been edited by cacoseraph: 01 February 2008 - 02:31 PM

[Black Widow]

cacoseraph, on Feb 1 2008, 09:30 PM, said:

so i have been told


i am serious though. i don't mess around with pillars and stuff i don't know about with urts on them.
and i am getting rid of most of my new world tarantulas (all the species thathave urts that bother me, at least)

Well I hope what you mean by getting rid of them is giving/or selling them to some one who wants them, or setting them free.

[cacoseraph]

good gods! you should never release ANYTHING into nature after it has been in your collection


that includes native species, too!



the chance of spreading some disease or malady to the native populations of bugs is WAY too big to ignore. i am researching the first of several articles i plan to write on it right now. the more i read the more crazy stuff i find out about!

for instance... there is a fungus that preys mostly on trapdoor type spiders in malaysia, especially the segmented trapdoor spiders in the Liphistius genus. the fungus grows on and then *inside* the spider until it impairs life functions sufficiently to kill the spider. after the fungus *kills* the spider it grows through out the body and then sends a long stalk up the burrow and pushes open the trapdoor. the stalk it tipped with the spore generating tissue of the fungus. the spores disperse by wind or phoresy and can start the process all over again.

we don't know the limits of that fungus... it can get into different ORDERS, FAMILIES, GENERA, and SPECIES of trapdoors though! we don't know how long the spores can live or how hardy they are. it would be possible for someone like me to spread it to the wilds and kill off all the species of trapdoors the live in CA.... cuz i keep Liphistius sp. and natives. if i had accidentily infected natives (even their eggs or eggsacs) with spores and then let them go... who KNOWS what could happen!

it is insane. i am actually not participating in a bug forum right now because their staff was quite insulting and cavalier in dismissing my assertions.

This post has been edited by cacoseraph: 01 February 2008 - 06:27 PM

[Black Widow]

Native species too?! I didn't know that!