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January Scorpion of the month - **Hottentotta judaicus** Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   quiz 

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 07:05 PM

Hi all,
My choice for January 2007 scorpion is Hottentotta judaicus. This scorpion is not that big. They're about 2 1/2 to 3 inches long (atleast the ones I have). Hottentotta judaicus are not picky eaters. They eat anything that moves no matter what the size is. They'll sting as soon as they get ahold of their prey. One way to differentiate between Hottentotta franzwerneri gentili and Hottentotta judaicus is by looking at their telson. H.f.gentili have reddish telson and Hottentotta judaicus have black telson.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/scorpquiz/Hottentotta%20judaicus/h.jpg


Keeping Hottentotta judaicus is really easy. I have kept them in cold condition (13-20C degrees) and warm condition (28-30C degrees). No matter how I kept them, they survived and doesn't seem to mind about the condition they are in. I am now keeping them in a 10 gallon (20x10x10) split tank with day and night temperature. I'd say 28 - 31C degrees during the day and 22C degrees at night. I have always kept them dry and usually offer water every 2 weeks. They are very tolerant species and can be kept in various condition.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/scorpquiz/Hottentotta%20judaicus/Cimg2739.jpg


I have never seen this species dig. They are usually hanging upside down under stones. I gave them 1 inch of peat moss and some stones where they can sit upside down. I am keeping 6 Hottentotta judaicus communally and no cannibalism so far. Pics below!
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/scorpquiz/Hottentotta%20judaicus/Cimg2735.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/scorpquiz/Hottentotta%20judaicus/Cimg2740.jpg

I'd say they are communal species.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/scorpquiz/Hottentotta%20judaicus/Cimg2734.jpg
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n237/scorpquiz/Hottentotta%20judaicus/Cimg2733.jpg

As for food. You can give them about anything. Drop some crickets in a communal set-up of H.judaicus and you will enjoy watching a massacre of crickets.

I try to keep my scorpions the best way I can and best condition I can give them. If you ever decide to keep this species in the future. Here's how you can keep them:

CAPTIVE CONDITION
Hottentotta judaicus:
H. judaicus: "Females with 22-27 (usually 24-25) denticles, males with 27-32 (usually 28-31)" Levy & Amitai 1980 (I got this info from Nazgul in another thread (thank you!)).
Communal: YES
Temperature: 13C degrees to 30C degrees
Humidity:Dry
Water:offer water in bottle cap every 2 weeks
Substrate:1 inch of peat moss
Hiding spots:Give them stones where they can sit upside down and they'll be happy

I guess that's it. Please add more information if you can and do not hesitate to ask.


Thanks to BrianS and VL crew for giving me a chance to participate in scorpion of the month archive.

This post has been edited by quiz: 03 January 2007 - 07:07 PM

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 07:21 PM

Very nice write up. Those are some beautiful scorpions. :) I love these SOTM. I got some questions though

1. Are these parthenogenetic?

2. Any physical differences between males and females besides denticle count?

3. How many molts to adulthood for males and females?

4. Venom rating?
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 07:30 PM

View Postmarcelo_987, on Jan 3 2007, 07:21 PM, said:

Very nice write up. Those are some beautiful scorpions. :) I love these SOTM. I got some questions though

1. Are these parthenogenetic?

2. Any physical differences between males and females besides denticle count?

3. How many molts to adulthood for males and females?

4. Venom rating?



No they are not parthenogenetic and I believe venom is about a 3
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 07:37 PM

Great write up Quiz you did a great job!!! How many females and how many males do you have of this species?
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 08:00 PM

very nice, I dont actually know a whole lot about these...
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 08:05 PM

Ed, I hope you can add more to this when yours breed and you get kids. Very well done!! Thanks :)
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 08:08 PM

Very nice write up, how many of these do you have now?
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 08:49 PM

Nice write-up.
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Posted 04 January 2007 - 12:37 AM

Great posting!
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Posted 04 January 2007 - 04:55 AM

Nice write up! This is very timely since I recently received the same species and I was hesitating if I would keep them communally. Thanks!

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 12:00 PM

Hi there mate I like what you've ritten there as I keep this sp. and the more imfo on these the better for all those who keep this brill sp. thanks mate. :rockon:
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Posted 04 January 2007 - 02:51 PM

Great work :)
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:24 AM

View Postmarcelo_987, on Jan 3 2007, 10:21 PM, said:

Very nice write up. Those are some beautiful scorpions. :) I love these SOTM. I got some questions though

1. Are these parthenogenetic?

2. Any physical differences between males and females besides denticle count?

3. How many molts to adulthood for males and females?

4. Venom rating?

Hi,
1)No they're not parthenogenetic
2)males are smaller plus their metasoma looks longer or same size as the female but I wouldn't really rely on that.
3)Not sure bro. I got them as adults.
4)A friend of mine got tagged and he told me that it really really hurts so I guess venom is not life threatening. Probably 2 or 3? I don't know how to rate a venom.

View PostDrapion, on Jan 3 2007, 10:37 PM, said:

Great write up Quiz you did a great job!!! How many females and how many males do you have of this species?

Hi,
I got 2 males and 4 females.


View PostBrianS, on Jan 3 2007, 11:05 PM, said:

Ed, I hope you can add more to this when yours breed and you get kids. Very well done!! Thanks :)

Brian,
I'll try to add more in the future. First birthing wasn't sucessful. Maybe because I didn't provide any water? but I switched them to another enclosure and so far I see them drinking water all the time so hopefully next birthing will be success.

View PostRaZeDaHeLL, on Jan 3 2007, 11:08 PM, said:

Very nice write up, how many of these do you have now?

Eve,
I have 6 adults.



Thanks All! I'll try to add more info in the future.
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 05:31 AM

Great info here, Ed! :rockon:
I have a little breeding group of H.judaicus and I love them :D
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Posted 05 January 2007 - 07:36 AM

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 09:59 PM

thanks Peter & Michiel :woot:
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Posted 06 January 2007 - 01:04 AM

Great Write-Up! I am realley enjoying these scorpion of the month posts, it's a good way for newbs like myself to get a lot of information on lots of different species, I love the pics of these guys hangin upside down under the rocks, very cool! :rockon:

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Posted 06 January 2007 - 03:22 AM

Great write-up and pics bro :)
These scorps are indeed really beautiful... Just saw some from
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Posted 27 July 2007 - 12:22 PM

Any idea on gestation period on these?

sorry to resurrect such an old thread but i figured its better than starting a new one! :ph34r:
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Posted 27 July 2007 - 12:42 PM

View Posttabor, on Jul 27 2007, 04:22 PM, said:

Any idea on gestation period on these?

sorry to resurrect such an old thread but i figured its better than starting a new one! :ph34r:

no Idea. I sold all my H.judaicus and all my other scorps that isn't Androctonus, Parabuthus and Orthochirus :P. It's a pain in the ass to take care of 100 scorps. Feeding and cleaning was taking all my time. It wasn't fun anymore.

I believe Nikos kept this species and the gestation was probably over a year.
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